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Sample ad which we all dream and all:

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Sell ruin cadastral survey as "home" stone good , approximately 140m2 to renovate, southern exposure, 10ha land of one piece, quiet, water meter, meter EDF , telephone and ADSL possible , agreement for City Hall renovation, village walk with shops, grocery, pharmacy, doctor.

Price 9.900E T : 05 56 56 56 56

Difficulties in buying a ruin

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The main difficulties when buying a ruin are

1. housekeeping (permission to rebuild and live)
2. practical (the ads are rare)
3. financial (cost of renovation, energy and sanitation)

I believe that in 99% of cases you can never live legally in a ruin even renovated . Especially if you're not a farmer (the ruins are often in agricultural zone) but if not ruin the cadastral survey as a former home and / or has never been connected to networks (water, electricity, telephone ).

In France there are many reasons that will jeopardize your project. But all is not lost, just to document it before doing anything ...

Therefore:

1. look good ads
2. know the difficulties to face
3. know what to check in an advertisement

Solutions:

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The purpose of this site es t help you gracefully with a few basic tips, you provide links to good sites with ads.

1. Use the menu on the right to visit the different sections.
2. Come back I update whenever I have free time.

I hope you enjoy exploring this site.

Sincerely,

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Learning to decode ads

through this site, it can help you learn the basic points to check and discover the own''laws''to ruins.

Here are the topics to be discussed:

• access road
• electricity
• drinking water
• sanitation
• how cadastral survey is the ruin
• known as a farm building in the cadastre
• and quite a few other points ...

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Search ruin for sale

This site will give you some ideas to try an interesting announcement:

• By using the Website listings leboncoin.fr ( http://www.leboncoin.fr/ )
• By viewing a few ads that I have selected for you
• Knowing use the right keywords to accelerate research

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Please use the menu on the right to visit all these topics

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RUIN: THE PITFALLS 10

TOP 10 TRAPS to avoid when buying a ruin!

1) NO ROAD ACCESS

2) NO EDF

3) CITY NOT WATER

4) CLEAN DIFFICULT

5) RUIN unsurveyed

6) RUIN cadastral survey AGRICULTURAL

7) AGAINST ANOTHER RUINED

8) RUIN FLOOD

9) RUIN IN PROTECTED AREA

10) WORK TOO IMPORTANT

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NO ROAD OR PATH NOT

On sale listings it is rare that you specify that access to the ruin is difficult, but often can guess the photos as in this example below:

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How do you want:

1. Go to your "home away from home"
2. Bring your materials or renovation to bring artisans

ruin if no access or difficult access?

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In general, I found the ruins in ads often have a history to make hair stand on end!

Sometimes they still have access ...

Let's see what we encounter most often:

1. path along communal (check)
2. easement or right of way contained in the deed later

Who said easement or right of way, said necessarily to share with others access to your ruin. This may very well happen as badly. Everything depends on what other owners!

A careful study.

I also note that sometimes access to some ruins is a puzzle, like a ruin at the end of a quiet close (view www.boncoin.fr):

In this case, hello anxiety to bring your materials!

Exactly style site that looks very very complicated!

Not impossible but difficult ...

yourself warned ...

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My advice

Me I discard automatically all the ads that have no easy path, Sunny. So I check this is to From the photos or by contacting the seller. At worst I move if I have a doubt.

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EDF - NO ELECTRICITY NO WATER

Renewables are not yet taken into account to make a living ruin administratively unrelated to the electricity grid.

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It is true that the media talk a lot of solar panels, wind turbines ... As a solution to almost everything.

But it is critical to understand is that -grid electrical your ruin is unlikely to be converted into living space for administrative ...

Indeed, for a change not ruin cadastral survey as habitable living space or even just get a license renewal via a building permit if no EDF, you will probably not normally your building permit and if you still have your renovation and install your independent source of power nothing will change at the administrative level and you have a day or other major problems. In France it is difficult to ignore the permissions before doing any administrative work.

• NO = EDF ILLEGAL HOUSING AND NON-LIVING

Except in special cases (EDF pole not too far you will pay ... maybe something like 3.000E even more by post, to add to the cost of regular connections) the fact that there is no possible connection to the ruin that Mary will not allow you to rebuild, renovate for residential use.

• Simple as that to my knowledge.

Regarding the use and renovation of a ruined agricultural without EDF and therefore no possibility of building permits it will become illegal as seen above but also very complicated if you're not a farmer. And even then the fact of not being connected to the EDF network will be a major problem.

Renewables are not yet sufficient for a normal comfort as we know, being connected to the network. And the cost is very high.

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Never think optimistically as you live "normally" with the only energy the sun or wind, it is totally illusory.

media tell anything or rather suggest that it is possible then it is not.

It will enter into''decay''that is, give up all that is very energy as a washing machine etc. ... Inquire about the power / price and you will see that apart from charge your notebook will cost incurred sooner you be disillusioned.

A worthy equipment to bring you a minimum of energy for living out about right will cost between 15 and 20,000 th.

When the wind ..... Except for living in the Camargue and enjoy the Mistral (and even then ...) do not count on it. Especially that beyond a certain size wind turbine requires administrative permissions:)

full circle.

Administrative problems a ruin to renovate, cost issues and power, renewables are not the beginning of a way to ruin not connected to the EDF and we want to live.

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Unless you love life in decay, autarkic, yurts, toilets dry, fresh water and live illegally, do not buy a ruin that can not be connected to the EDF.

Unfortunately, the current French situation. You can check for yourself by completing your information on this subject or debating with the administrative authorities.

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My advice

Me I'm moving in town hall when ruin my interest. And I am informed of his position, his opinion.

What think you it to rehabilitate the ruins?

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water that's life:

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You think that if we invented the water distribution in France is that the Medieval Age is over ... Without water you will have many problems.

course the presence of a source, a stream is already a base, better than nothing.

• But you must remember that water may be (probably) polluted!

Toilets, safe gardening but for bathing, washing dishes or cleaning vegetables / fruits you will need to do analysis, periodically ...

• Finally, you probably will not get permission to renovate the ruin if not supplied with drinking water. To connect a ruin public drinking water must be therefore the agreement of the mayor (who funded me it seems, so you will understand the difficulty for her to make you''pleasure''in digging roads and spending thousands of euros to bring you the network). This agreement will nevertheless need to obtain authorization for processing into habitable. The sources were (according to my current knowledge) not taken into account for this kind of permissions ...

I ruin a debate here at home and destination not for use on the weekends.

Clarification is made that water flows naturally from the top down . This may seem obvious but when signing for the ruin of dreams the pressure to buy could make you forget a source lower than the ruin inevitably means a lift pump (which will run on electricity course ) or a hydraulic ram if the flow is sufficient.

• It happened to a friend in the Cantal! He unfortunately source about drinking but it is located too low in relation to ruin! Obligation to buy an electric pump to maintain etc. ... The worst being that was the source dries up and the pump is primed. The creation of a basin partly solved the problem. But created the proliferation of algae, the uncertainty about the animals, mice, rats, insects that can contaminate the unaudited possible (even if the pool is protected). Big problem so that the lowest source ...

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My advice

Me I'm moving in town hall when ruin my interest. And I am informed of his position, his opinion.

What think you it to rehabilitate the ruins?

Normally the water system is it that the finance ... And municipalities do not have much money in their coffers ...

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NO SANITATION

Sanitation for the French authorities is a matter taken very seriously. There are currently two main options:

1) The collective sanitation (Sewerage) consists of a pipe near the communal roads (communal). It is connected above and the subject is closed (expenses excepted).

NB : If your property is served by it to the sewer you will not be your choice for sanitation, it will connect you.

2) If there is no mains drainage, sanitation individual can take several forms, requiring or not a notice of the authorities.

But

In any case, at this stage of my information, the toilets do not convince in the context of obtaining a building permit and the lagoon is not a guaranteed solution (from view permissions). Blackwater or greywater one always returns to the heart of the problem ie a convincing sanitation and thus expensive if the right to reside is built or acquired.

Count a minimum of 1,500 to 2.000E.

Always the same, if you do not want or can apply for a change of assignment (ruin, barn etc. ...), if your property is not buildable, sanitation will a very minor problem ...

Invest any money into a personal sanitation when has no right to live in the administrative places would not make sense.

The topic of consolidation is probably what will soon remind you of a municipality has to order. Especially if you live permanently where it is not permitted ...

Because it is a problem of public health ...

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My advice

Me I'm moving in town hall when ruin my interest. And I am informed of his position, his opinion.

What think you it to rehabilitate the ruins?

Normally sanitation by mains drainage it is that the finance ... And municipalities do not have much money in their coffers ...

Sanitation individual is now heavily guarded and there are rules, particularly in terms of surface thus spreading the field. Despite the micro-stations etc. ...

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RUINED RUINED unsurveyed

Sometimes you are offered a ruin unsurveyed what does this mean?

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In France all the buildings are cadastred, ie recorded in administrative files and plans.

On the site http://www.geoportail.fr/ you quickly get a confirmation whether this failure is known to file state and municipality.

• Add plots cadastral layer or "buildings" to see if the ruin appears. And confirm with City Hall.

must before the seller has given you the number of the parcel of land he wants to sell you.

• is marked on its purchase documents, property.

unsurveyed A ruin it means to buy agricultural land with a pile of stone gifts. That the ruin is on the field or not will change nothing. A pile of rocks I tell you.

exist on Internet forums and articles by their authors say that when it remains home to a chimney or wall or roof you will remain entitled to rebuild.

Honestly I could not find any text on that. And I doubt that's true!

In all cases, even if the destruction was finally recognized by the authorities will remain the problem much more important networks EDF, AS, Water and Sanitation to solve ...

If by a stroke of incredible luck in the field bringing ruin unsurveyed is "buildable" then your problems will be solved easily. With or without remnants of ruin ...

The pile of stone, even in the latter case no guarantee at all that future construction will be permitted where the pile of stone remains ... Much less that it is financially a good idea. Everything depends on the location of the remains of the ruin. Plus it was close networks (and therefore the road) it will be more simple and economically viable. If it is in the middle of a field of 10 ha inevitably you will understand that the costs do not worth the candle and it will be better to build a closer network ...

Even when one likes to put down paths or boundaries of his land should be borne in mind that the distance of networks is a significant cost if the "fed" are made by a pro.

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My advice

Me I'm moving in town hall when ruin my interest. The mayor may issue the plans of the cadastre and those planning rules applicable to the area where the ruins. Everything is searchable for free. Just pay attention to the opening hours ... In any case it should be polite and diplomatic. This is a public service but in small towns everyone knows each other. Better to keep a low profile and does not happen in conquered territory.

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cadastred

When a seller tells you that the ruin is the cadastral survey is a beginning of good news.

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Indeed ruin cadastral survey is not at all a right to live, change it. Unless the failure is known as a former housing services.

Very often ruin the cadastral survey has been a destination (a reported use) and non-agricultural type buildings. That's what we found most commonly in the ads. Unfortunately.

The first question to ask a realtor or seller is:

• "The council is it OK for a change of destination?

This tends to mean in more technical language that the City Council accept a building permit to change the destination of agricultural living.

• If it is evasive or does not know it's wrong committed. It must be checked this point. If he did not have to do it. Sometimes the sellers are fully aware of the "impossibility of living ruin, renovate and try to find a''pigeon''who buys land of leisure said with a pile of stones and not check anything.

As ALWAYS check either by himself, eventually it just reassure no one can take that said third face value.

• The only source of timely and accurate information is the Hall.

in doubt and if the ruins are interesting, simply agree to sign a sub-seal with a condition precedent to obtaining a building permit to convert the ruin housing.

NB: If there is no path, no networks, you can doubt in advance of the response of the Town Hall ... It's gonna be tough ...

Importantly

• must distinguish a possible agreement for change of destination (eg barn house) and a building permit with a change of destination. The City Council may well allow you to change a destination but you refuse to open new windows, change the tiles to slates, ask velux etc. .... And vice versa ...

Finally the City Council and the networks that are often different interlocutors and in all cases it must be remembered that NOBODY will help you more than reason.

Everything must be done is to move yourself. Normal.

is necessarily a lot of energy.

IMPORTANT

• And if ruin is in a protected area including the buildings of France, the transformation will be 300% compliant with the recommendations of the local architect of ... buildings in France.

The recommendations of ABF are often synonymous with high costs (the work must respect the rules of the old, almost systematic refusal of cheap materials such as PVC etc. ... in a normal sense but for some prescriptions common sense is sometimes absent, seeing in each case, impossible to generalize, some are''realistic''ABF) and the permissions take longer (usually one month for a PC) because the service of the ABF must necessarily reflect on your project. Is often best to contact the service to tell them about your project. If possible BEFORE you buy!

The City Council will tell you explain it all very well if you ask kindly:)

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AGAINST ANOTHER RUINED RUINED RUINED

A detached ruin to another ruin, a street, road or a building is a source of potential problems to properly measure.

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The problem of ruin leaning against another building that is buying it you become liable for any damage that its collapse or degradation can cause.

• You must be insured
• You have to do emergency work

The problem of ruin leaning against another downfall is that your renovations will take into account the other building. If the neighboring property owner is negligent as to leave her crumbling ruin it is unlikely that changes in attitude and starts to become aware of the risks.

You must be careful around adjoining or near the ruins.

course you can continue the nearby derelict ruin, but it's long and complications even wholesale costs.

It is sometimes better not to engage in this kind of purchase.

• Your ruin s' collapse must be able to do on your property without impacting your neighbors, passersby, etc. ...
• The ruin of your neighbors should not penalize your investment (if you're a beautiful and expensive renovation but that aside the surrounding ruins will collapse for a long time can be in ruins ...) or threaten your work.

often found this scenario to ruin not isolated in a field. In an old village, for example you have to think about it very seriously. We do not pick a wall that makes the stomach without charge or a lot of energy and risk taking. We can not touch the nearby ruins or think that their owners will move''''on the grounds that you have purchased and want to renovate ...